ame-furi said: sorry about that mistake lol it’s 3 am for me and I’m brain dead rn. But I do understand the nuances of the story, I just don’t like where it went with the story and where it’s headed, I don’t even like how they are robots to begin with. The idea of two “races” living in basically completely separate worlds, one of hard work and grease and the other filled with carefree robots is interesting. But like you begin the season with a cool show about flying around shooting monsters and then wanting to learn the story of this sad mysterious man, that is interesting! But then its revealed that the guy is just a cute little robot doing missions for an evil block w/Igor from persona nose and that ohhh it’s all just a game hehehehKalvus said: it’s interesting but I just don’t like the little robo dudes and I don’t like the idea that oh there’s a bunch of aliens and they just gamin. I rather just have everyone be a human. Also I don’t really feel like a debate rn, I understand where you’re coming from and it’s definitely interesting. I just personally don’t like it. They're not aliens, they're cyborgs, technically humans who have been turned into cyborgs by the corporation. I believe the different style of graphics with the robo dudes (colorful, peaceful, cartoonish, fake and artificial) is just used as a concept that separates the harsh and hard-to-live world of humans from the free and ideal world of cyborgs, which in reality isn't free and ideal. I think the show has a lot of interesting and unique concepts and ideas, you just need to have an open mind and pay attention to details. But I understand that not everyone appreciates it, since everyone has their own taste. |
KalvusAug 9, 2020 2:12 AM
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Kalvus said: ame-furi said: sorry about that mistake lol it’s 3 am for me and I’m brain dead rn. But I do understand the nuances of the story, I just don’t like where it went with the story and where it’s headed, I don’t even like how they are robots to begin with. The idea of two “races” living in basically completely separate worlds, one of hard work and grease and the other filled with carefree robots is interesting. But like you begin the season with a cool show about flying around shooting monsters and then wanting to learn the story of this sad mysterious man, that is interesting! But then its revealed that the guy is just a cute little robot doing missions for an evil block w/Igor from persona nose and that ohhh it’s all just a game hehehehThey're not aliens, they're cyborgs, technically humans who have been turned into cyborgs by the corporation. I believe the different style of graphics with the robo dudes (colorful, peaceful, cartoonish, fake and artificial) is just used as a concept that separates the harsh and hard-to-live world of humans from the free and ideal world of cyborgs, which in reality isn't free and ideal. I think the show has a lot of interesting and unique concepts and ideas, you just need to have an open mind and pay attention to details. But I understand that not everyone appreciates it, since everyone has their own taste. Well, personally I'm glad that it's not your typical shounen again, we get this type of shows with mindless fights almost every season and we will get more of them in the future for sure, so for me Deca-Dence is a little breath of fresh air. I bet if this was another show with humans fighting huge monsters, people would be complaining that it's just "another SnK ripoff" and there's nothing new and unique about it. Turns out that this is not your typical shounen or SnK ripoff, and people are still dissatisfied and then go back to complaining that there's no more shows with unique and different ideas and concepts are we're doomed with shounens, isekais and moeshit lol. |
ame-furi said: a good show would be able to use classic tropes and innovate at the same time. This show, although more action-y, looked like it had a cool and mysterious aire to it. I feel like that was ruined when the robots were introduced and I don’t like the direction it’s going. Still going to watch it tho, all the twist did was make a 7/10 show into a 6(which is above average and still good in my book)Kalvus said: sorry about that mistake lol it’s 3 am for me and I’m brain dead rn. But I do understand the nuances of the story, I just don’t like where it went with the story and where it’s headed, I don’t even like how they are robots to begin with. The idea of two “races” living in basically completely separate worlds, one of hard work and grease and the other filled with carefree robots is interesting. But like you begin the season with a cool show about flying around shooting monsters and then wanting to learn the story of this sad mysterious man, that is interesting! But then its revealed that the guy is just a cute little robot doing missions for an evil block w/Igor from persona nose and that ohhh it’s all just a game heheheh Well, personally I'm glad that it's not your typical shounen again, we get this type of shows with mindless fights almost every season and we will get more of them in the future for sure, so for me Deca-Dence is a little breath of fresh air. I bet if this was another show with humans fighting huge monsters, people would be complaining that it's just "another SnK ripoff" and there's nothing new and unique about it. Turns out that this is not your typical shounen or SnK ripoff, and people are still dissatisfied and then go back to complaining that there's no more shows with unique and different ideas and concepts are we're doomed with shounens, isekais and moeshit lol. Edit: just looked at your list an dayum you grade harshly |
KalvusAug 9, 2020 1:16 PM
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| This anime is surprisingly good, definitely better than it's MAL rating. The cartoonish art style on the cyborgs is probably why it has a lower score but if you can get past that, this anime is really good. Maybe the best non-sequel anime this season. |
hententhusiast52 said: Terrain_ said: exactly why cant people understand each others taste like who fucking tells people that their taste in anime is superior than other people's taste in anime and also yes originally in ep 1 the concept of the show though cool was rather unoriginal but the 2nd ep. was made it both cool and original.Second episode plot twist ruined the show bro, that’s it if the show's enjoyable and not boring then i dont see how it can in anyway be garbage unless you watch it with the bias that its bad and that your taste in anime is way too exquisite for it to be sullied by an anime you think is bad if people dont like it and other people do then the people who dont like it dont have to be toxic bitches and shame people for liking the show. im new to mal and like i thought it was goin to be a chill site but god are the people here toxic. anyways imo deca dence is a pretty neat and enjoyable show. Look who's shaming whom. Making a case when someone says what they didn't like about the show is totally not toxic, bro. |
hententhusiast52 said: Hrybami said: bro read the above thread the guy just saying its trash and isnt giving a reason. and also i also said that ppl here cant respest each others taste so the guy who started calling him a coward is equally if not more toxic.Look who's shaming whom. Making a case when someone says what they didn't like about the show is totally not toxic, bro. if ur gonna say a shoows bad then give a reason or else ur just shaming all the people who like the show Bro is now toxic, the coward is now toxic, the guy who pointed out the coward is even more toxic, I am now toxic, everyone is now toxic. >Oh no, why can't people respect each other's taste? If you're not part of the circle jerk and have not yet provided an essay. Badabing badaboum you are now shaming people. |
Zexus95 said: Just finished episode 1 of the show and the whole avatar thing was shown at the end of Ep1 and people are complaining how Ep2 changed everything, lmao. This definitely shows how big people's brains are. Yep. Just look at one of the reviews on the front page where the reviewer says "the world of Deca-Dence if just a virtual game of some sort. after seeing that i didn't bother to watch the rest of the episode, the plot is now meaningless." And it just keeps getting upvotes. I swear, the amount of retards this show attracts is just insane. I don't even know why MAL allows to write such misleading reviews after watching only 1 episode. |
ame-furiAug 22, 2020 2:07 AM
Zexus95 said: Just finished episode 1 of the show and the whole avatar thing was shown at the end of Ep1 and people are complaining how Ep2 changed everything, lmao. This definitely shows how big people's brains are. Zoomers have no attention span. ame-furi said: I don't even know why MAL allows to write such misleading reviews after watching only 1 episode. Thankfully reviews aren't allowed until 4 episodes are out. |
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| Cause people are conservative, even young people. And people especially look traditionally attractive designs, if gaming has taught me anything. Say, look at battle royales, ones with wacky characters have all flopped, Valorant thrives. Look at anime - people can eat as many identical cute waifus as there is. And many people especially don't understand/like/accept complex ironic styles. Or complex plots in general. The majority wants to have a likeable cool hero. With Deca-Dance at first it looked like a knock-off AoT. For the life of me, I don't understand why people hate on well-made similar shows, it's as if they want to protect their fave from any competition. For example, Kabaneri - it was mindless good fun. It was similar to AoT, so what? There’s 100500 isekais each season, and they are indistinguishable. AoT doesn't slay the same in its later seasons too. Yet people hated for this reason. Then they shook the plot up. And, as far as I see, some people are salty that they were “lied to”. Is that some weird sense of inadequacy? Idk. But it’s also legit that some viewers aren’t interested in world building, they want drama and characters. For those people Deca-Dance is indeed not the best choice. And the world of cyborgs is off-putting to many. It is a big contrast and hard on the eyes, tbh. But once you get accustomed, you get that it’s the point. It’s a cheap plastic corporate dystopia after all, and it looks like one – like a Tamagotchi hell. Then there’re lefit problems, like corners being cut in storytelling and characterization, as I have already mentioned. We haven’t really seen Kaburagi forge his relationship with the MC, for example. It’s unclear why the system doesn’t see certain things cyborgs do, even though at other moments its reach seems absolute. It’s still a great show and the strange hate it gets shows the reason we don’t get few good things, in the end. It definitely doesn’t deserve the radio silence it gets. It’s miles better than some seasonal hits. |
| As far as I can tell, everyone giving this show low marks is a) still salty about the episode 2 reveal, and b) completely missing the political subtext. I'll admit, the first 5 minutes of episode 2 had me thinking about dropping the show too. The game angle seemed to rob the show of all gravitas. But oh boy, is that ever a false impression. There's some really deep commentary beneath the cyborg sections that would take an essay to fully expound upon. Once I realized they actually enhanced the weight of the plot, I've been hooked ever since. Depending on how it plays out, it might even reach 10/10 status. You have to understand: Japan may not have censorship in the same way as certain neighboring Asian countries, but because of its past war history, public discourse is severely limited on certain political subjects. The way creators get around it is by making shows like Deca-Dence, where they can explore real-world ideas like communism through fictional mediums. Especially given recent world events, the themes here are incredibly poignant and hit close to home for anyone keeping up with the times. There are people alive today who will have to face the same oppression the show depicts in the name of defending the truth of their convictions. Most shows allow viewers to glean morals from their stories, but directly characterizing real forces of evil makes it all so much more tangible. It's also FAR harder to portray correctly, but so far, Deca-Dence has nailed it. It's a much more impressive feat than people are giving it credit for. |
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