Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of largest towns in Wales without a railway station

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. A somewhat parallel (and more in-depth) discussion took place simultaneously at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of largest towns in England without a railway station (2nd nomination). The short story is that there is consensus that this list is non-notable per WP:LISTN. A more thorough analysis can be found in the closing statement at the above-linked AfD. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 23:38, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

List of largest towns in Wales without a railway station

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This appears to be entirely synthesis and original research. There is no reason we should be covering this topic when there are no sources addressing it as a set. Therefore it fails NLIST as well. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:12, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:12, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

  Hi @Trainsandotherthings. There have been a number of discussions on this topic in the media, three of which I have now added to the article as references. The article is a sister of the existing List of largest towns in England without a railway station which doesn't seem to have been proposed for deletion. As I've sourced, there have been Guardian and City Monitor discussions around areas without railway stations as part of a broader topic on geospatial issues in the UK. If you feel some of the elements involve too much original research e.g. the distance measurements then I respect that, and concede those are additions to the England article. Yet there seems to be sufficient grounds for a list article on population, date of closure (if any) and additional notes. Llemiles (talk) 20:21, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks for letting me know about List of largest towns in England without a railway station, I will nominate that article for deletion as well. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:32, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

  Mentioning other articles is not an argument for inclusion, per Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions BrigadierG (talk) 13:42, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists and Wales. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:13, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
• Keep - The topic is notable. The article could do with some cleaning up, particularly with how its defining town, but I dont think its deletion worthy. Eopsid (talk) 19:30, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

  Simply saying "the topic is notable" without any evidence of such is not productive. There needs to be coverage in multiple reliable, independent, secondary sources. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 00:16, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

• Keep. Notable topic about which plenty has been written over the years. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:05, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  Simply saying "the topic is notable" without any evidence of such is not productive. There needs to be coverage in multiple reliable, independent, secondary sources. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:53, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete. No evidence that the list has been written about as a list, so no pass on WP:NLIST. Not a content fork, so no pass on WP:CFORK. The keep votes to date are a mixture of asserted notability and WP:OSE and should not be considered in closing the discussion. BrigadierG (talk) 06:41, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete per my rationale at the AfD for the England list. Jumpytoo Talk 00:35, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete (as per England list). No evidence has been found/presented to demonstrate this intersection is notable and warrants a list article. Sources are predominantly about individual towns or places that are farthest from a station (which is obviously not the same thing). _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 16:32, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.